not sure what you are asking here. Are you asking if I feel like I'm cheating? If so, I do not feel it is cheating as I am only masturbating and my wife already knows that I masturbate and have been for our entire marrage. 

I guess I’m asking, is it cheating as it feels like it is? Not being judgmental here , just I love it when it happens and feel awful afterwards 

I do not think or feel it is cheating, masturbation in my mind is never cheating. Unless you establishing a relationship that is more than physical. 

Thanks dude! Men to Men hook ups have a totally different vibe to Men to Women hook ups. Feel so guilty after I’ve shot my bolt !

If you’re just bating, I don’t feel like it’s breaking vows. Oral or anal is cheating, in my opinion.

This is something I have been wrestling with ever since I got married 22 years ago. I was quite open about my past sexcapades with her in the beginning but her insecurities made me feel like I did something wrong. Therefore I keep it secret if and when I go bating again. Why I feel bad afterwards is a response to myself that I can't be true and free about me without judgement from others (and me) 😔. Just be kind to yourself whenever you can and with whomever you can (both wife and buddy included) ❤️ 

sounds fun

I'm not married but I'm in a relationship with a woman. She knows I love a good wan. I don't see wanking with other guys as cheating on her because we all wank anyway. I've only had 2 experiences but 1 was when I was in this relationship and it was just 2 mates watching porn and wanking off.

Maybe I would feel differently if we were frotting and giving each other hand jobs every week but if it's just 2 mates doing what mates do I don't think it's a problem.

After my wedding I quit wanking for almost two years. I came back to it when my wife was pregnant. I stopped making sex with my wife some years ago. Frequency of my wanking did not change - I jacked off almost everyday before wedding, during my marriage and nowadays.

Masturbation is another kind of sex. When I jack off I'm not cheating. 

@fapper I do believe you will find a lot of us men on in very similar situations. So just enjoy your cock and wanking definitely is a different sort of pleasure

A few of my wank buddies and online mates are married. They usually don't want their partner to know what they are doing, but are not too worried about thinking they are cheating. It's simply an outlet for a marriage that has lost it's sexual side. I am 54 and most of my mates are around that age, so their wives have lost a lot of interest in sex.

If you love your wife, then that goes deeper than some skin level sexual relief. It's physical and not emoitional. 

@kiwijacker you are spot on there completely different. I also get the guilt side as some have said. But at the end of the day if you enjoy it do it .we only live once.

Sometimes I jacked off with other guys. Some of them told me they were married. Some of them had a wedding rings on their fingers.

Married 1970 and never stopped wanking. Show me a married man who doesn't wank! Used to have random wanks in a nearby layby often with married men. It's not gay as there's no romantic interest, we just like cocks and tossing off. It's natural. 

@fapper were some of them like this dude?

@tossov75 yes exactly, just because we get hitched doesn't mean we become less sexual and more emotional. I think we have the capacity for both in equal measure but the kinky side gets repressed as years and children and menopause goes onwards. Therefore we need more opportunities to release our kink whenever and wherever we can.

I honestly reckon that as we get older, the idea of M2M pleasure comes more and more of an option.

I never had any interest in wanking or sucking with guys until I hit my 40s.

Now, I think I prefer it. No  hassle or emotional baggage and I get to shoot my load however I like.

The older I am, the more often I dream of wanking and sucking with married men.

I just make sure that my wife never finds any of my panties, because she usually doesn’t go into my stuff! And she never goes into my emails!

paul